Poison control centers are seeing a dramatic surge in calls from people who are self-medicating with ivermectin, an anti-parasite drug for animals that some falsely claim treats COVID-19.
DAMN YOU ANTI-VAXXERS!
JUST TAKE THE FUCKING SHOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
HOLD THEM DOWN AND VACCINATE THEM AT GUNPOINT!!!!
FULL BLOWN TOTALITARIAN DICTATORSHIP NOW!!!!!!!
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According to the National Poison Data System (NPDS), which collects information from the nation’s 55 poison control centers, there was a 245% jump in reported exposure cases from July to August — from 133 to 459.
A surge of 326 cases nationwide.
I screengrabbed it just in case.
It’s a complete mystery why people don’t trust the media anymore.
According to the media, 326 cases of Ivermectin overdoses have brought the entire American healthcare system to its knees.
He’s citing the New York Times’ tracker on Americans’ vaccination status, which can be found here. As of Friday September 10, this is where we stood:
65% of American adults are vaccinated. 54% of Americans in total.
If this were a normal vaccine (i.e. one that actually worked) it would mean the virus should only be spreading among the remaining 46% of unvaccinated Americans.
But in practice, viruses don’t work that way. After all, while the government and a number of Vaccine Fanatics on social media would like for us to live in a bifurcated society of vaxed and unvaxed and basically turn the unvaxed into Lepers, the reality is that they mix among one another regularly. Which should make it even harder for the virus to spread, in theory: more immunity, whether via vaccines or natural immunity, among the general population by definition decreases the r0 (i.e. contagiousness) of a given virus.
Say I have Covid and I walk into a large conference room full of 100 people. I strike up a close conversation with one person at random, which means that my odds of spreading Covid to that person are 46% given that the person was selected at random in a room where 54 out of the 100 people are immune. I then start feeling sick, leave the room and go home to lie down without talking to anyone else. If the person I had a conversation with is one of the 54 people in the room with immunity, then my Covid does not spread to that person, and I have not spread Covid to anyone.
If the person I spoke with is one of the 46 without immunity, then I have probably spread Covid to that person. That person in turn probably spread Covid to about 3 other people given the median Covid r0 of 2.8.
This is how the idea of herd immunity works, at least in theory and in a very simplified sense. You want the number of immune individuals–through a combination of natural immunity and vaccine immunity–as high as possible in order to minimize the chances of a virus spreading among the population.
The NY Times says that 90% is the number we need as a country to reach herd immunity, and projects that at the current pace of vaccinations, we will not reach that 90% threshold until June 2022:
But even if the pace of vaccination has slowed considerably since April, when it was at its highest, we still shouldn’t see spiking Covid cases like this:
Granted, this current wave (which appears to have peaked) wasn’t as bad as the wave we saw during the winter given the number of vaccinations plus the number of people who have already had the virus. But it was still a lot worse than it should’ve been in a nation with well over 50% immunity.
And that’s why people are starting to point out that the vaccines don’t work. So what’s the explanation? Delta variant, of course, say the vaccine fanatics:
The vaccine is failing because of VARIANTS, you stupid anti-Science™ idiots!
Which is why we…. need more people to get the vaccine?
This is the one thing I’ve never understood about these vaccine fanatics: their excuse for why the vaccine hasn’t stopped Covid is the Delta Variant. Yet they still insist everyone should get vaccinated, even though by their own admission the vaccine can’t protect you from the Delta Variant.
You can’t have it both ways: either the virus is still spreading because not enough people have gotten the vaccine, or the Delta variant has rendered the vaccine almost useless.
It can’t be both.
Anyway, back to Deace’s original point: why haven’t we reached herd immunity yet despite all the people that have either vaccine or natural immunity? The obvious explanation is that the vaccine doesn’t work, and so when you see a number like 65% of adults being fully vaccinated, that doesn’t actually mean 65% of adults are immune. Vaccinated doesn’t equal immune. Israel says the Pfizer shot is only 39% effective, while the US maintains it’s about 66%.
And it’s failing more by the day. This chart from Handwaving Freakoutery on Twitter projects the rate at which the vaccine is failing, and basically by the time 250 days have passed from a person’s second dose, the vaccine is completely useless:
Within just 90 days, the Pfizer vaccine’s effectiveness falls by about 25%. Within 6 months, it’s under 50% effective.
So we’re not going to achieve herd immunity through vaccination. I know they’re talking about booster shots, but a lot of people who have had two doses of the vaccine are at the point now where they won’t even get the booster shot because of how transparently ineffective their initial shots were. The booster shot is not going to work.
I’ve been saying for over a year that herd immunity via natural immunity will happen around the 20-25% range, and that’s based on looking at when prior flu pandemics throughout history (e.g. Swine Flu, 1957 flu pandemic, Spanish Flu, etc.) peaked out. We’re barely over 10% in the US right now. 41.8 million cases in a nation of about 330 million = 12.6%. It’s probably higher than that due to the fact that there are a lot of asymptomatic and unreported cases. How much higher? Impossible to say, but if we say it’s 50% higher than the actual tested number, then we’re still only at around 18-19%.
And globally, we’re even further from herd immunity: 225 million cases of Covid against a total world population of about 7.8 billion means we’re barely at 3% overall. However, that’s probably significantly under-shooting the actual number of worldwide Covid cases given that testing rates per capita vary wildly from nation to nation. For example, Nigeria is a nation of 212 million people, ranking #7 worldwide. They’re testing for Covid at about 13,500 people per million.
On the other hand, the UK, a nation of 68 million, has conducted more than 4x as many Covid tests as there are people in the country. America, too: we’ve conducted 606 million Covid tests, nearly double the population of the whole country. That doesn’t mean every person has been tested multiple times, it more likely means some people have been tested repeatedly. I know, for example, a friend of mine has to get tested multiple times per week for his job.
The point is, nations around the world vary significantly in their rate of testing for Covid. Brazil, the 6th most populous nation in the world with 214 million people, has only carried out about 57 million Covid tests, which means the US has done more than 10x as many Covid tests as Brazil has. Official global numbers for Covid are likely to be an extreme low-ball scenario.
So this is why I predominantly focus on the US. It’s a whole different can of worms to try to figure out the real number of people worldwide that have had Covid.
There is actually a formula used to calculate the herd immunity threshold, and it’s based on the r0 of a given virus. It’s as follows:
1 – 1 / r0
So that would give us a herd immunity threshold of about 64%, but then again, the more people that get infected and recover (and thus gain natural immunity), the r0 of the virus decreases. Fewer people to infect obviously means fewer people infected.
Also, the Delta Variant’s r0 is estimated to be about 6, which further complicates things. That would put us at a herd immunity threshold of ~83%. Comparatively, the Spanish Flu had an r0 of about 1.8, which is lower than even normal Covid and way lower obviously than Delta.
So the bottom line is that we haven’t reached herd immunity for two main reasons:
Not enough people have natural immunity yet.
The vaccine is failing.
The vaccine was supposed to be a substitute for natural immunity, which would help us get to herd immunity way faster than natural immunity would. It’s like this: if we have 12% of the country naturally immune, and the herd immunity threshold is, say, 70%, then we have can fill that 58% gap by vaccinating people and boom, 70%.
But again, that’s assuming a 100% effective vaccine. And this vaccine is nowhere close to 100%.
Bari Weiss hosted Washington Post foreign policy reporter Josh Rogin on her Honestly podcast to talk about the Chinese government and the origin of the coronavirus. You may recall that Rogin was the reporter who broke the story last year about diplomatic cables which warned that safety wasn’t being handled well at the Wuhan Institute of Virology (WIV).
As you’re probably aware, there have been reports going all the way back to a Trump administration fact sheet that researchers working at the WIV became sick with an illness that had “symptoms consistent with both COVID-19 and common seasonal illnesses.”
In May of this year the Wall Street Journal published a follow-up report which clarified there were three researchers who became ill in the fall of 2019, all of whom wound up being hospitalized. But there has been some pushback on those reports noting that China had a very bad flu season in 2019. So the fact that three people working at the WIV were hospitalized in the midst of that season doesn’t prove they had COVID-19.
However, in Weiss’ interview with Rogin, the first half of which was released today, he reveals some additional detail that I don’t think have been revealed previously about the still secret intelligence behind these reports.
“The unreleased intelligence is the stuff that, if you read John Ratcliffe’s op-ed recently, that he is talking about,” Rogin said. He added, “What he wrote is that the secret intelligence, the stuff that they didn’t release, it’s even more damning, has lots of specifics about the lab. Now I happen to know what some of that is and I’ll tell it to you right now, okay.”
“What it says is that the symptoms that these sick researchers had were not your everyday flu symptoms,” Rogin said. He continued, “In other words, they were COVID specific symptoms necessarily and these include no smell and what are called ground-glass opacities in the lungs.
“That doesn’t medically prove that they had COVID but that’s some pretty specific symptoms.” Rogin added an additional point. The WIV is a large facility that hosts a lot of different labs studying different viruses. According to the unreleased information our intelligence community has gathered, the researchers who got sick in 2019 “were the guys working at the bat coronavirus lab.”
Rogin is careful to say this doesn’t prove the lab leak theory is true, it’s just more circumstantial evidence. But if this intelligence is accurate, it certainly adds something to the case that this could have been the result of some kind of lab accident.
There’s more to the interview, including Rogin’s claim that President Trump’s early statement that the virus would just go away when the weather got warmer came directly from President Xi Jinping who was lying to him in order to downplay the seriousness of the pandemic.
There’s a reason Trump demanded China be fined $10 trillion.
Of course, that’ll never happen given that our governing class–from Washington to Wall Street to Silicon Valley to Hollywood, plus academia writ large–is basically China’s collective bitch.
For the vast majority of the vaccinated, getting the shot is not a political statement. They just implicitly trust the government and the big pharma companies that make the vaccine, and they figure getting the vaccine is simply the Right Thing to Do.
Well, now they’re starting to realize the vaccine can have very real side effects. This is why I always say: it’s a matter of risk/reward. If we know the vaccine has potentially serious side effects, then it’s not such a no-brainer to get it. Especially since we now know the vaccine isn’t anywhere near as effective as the government told us it was.
Fauci replies: “You know, that’s a really good point, Sanjay. I don’t have a firm answer for you on that. That’s something that we’re going to have to discuss regarding the durability of the response. The one thing the paper from Israel [which found that natural immunity is better than vaccine immunity] didn’t tell you is whether or not as high as the protection is with natural infection, what’s the durability compared to the vaccine? So it’s conceivable that you got infected, you’re protected–but you may not be protected for an indefinite period of time. So I think that is something something we need to sit down and discuss seriously, because you very appropriately pointed out, that is an issue. And there could be an argument for saying what you said.”
He’s got nothing even though the CDC’s official position is that people who have had Covid already should just get the vaccine anyway.
The only thing Fauci can say is that if you’ve already had Covid, you may not be immune from the virus for an indefinite period of time.
A preprint study from the Cleveland Clinic released in June found that “Individuals who have had SARS-CoV-2 infection are unlikely to benefit from COVID-19 vaccination, and vaccines can be safely prioritized to those who have not been infected before.”
But the CDC’s own study from a couple of months later said that people who have already had Covid should still get vaccinated. Because “being unvaccinated was associated with 2.34 times the odds of reinfection compared with being fully vaccinated.”
I don’t know. I personally trust the CDC about as far as I can throw it, as I’m sure they just come to whatever conclusion their Big Pharma owners want them to come to.
Plus, you heard it straight from Fauci himself: he cannot make any sort of compelling argument whatsoever for why people who have already had Covid should still get vaccinated.
Via the Telegraph. It’s behind a paywall, but the bottom line is that “young males are six times more likely to suffer from heart problems after being jabbed than be hospitalized from Covid.”
The vaccine fanatics will probably point out that it’s still highly unlikely that someone will suffer heart issues after taking the vaccine–that this is a “fear porn” headline.
But it’s impossible to make that argument without admitting that it is even more unlikely for a teenage boy to get to the point of being hospitalized due to Covid.
And this doesn’t even take into account that you can still get Covid even if you’ve been vaxxed!
The bottom line is that when it comes to the vaccine, it’s a simple cost-benefit analysis: there are risks that come from not getting the vaccine, but there are also risks that come from getting the vaccine. The vaccine fanatics are still pretending the vaccine is perfectly safe and 100% effective, but it’s not.
And thus there are a lot of people out there who, for them personally, it doesn’t make sense to get the vaccine. The odds of them even being hospitalized due to Covid–much less dying–are so low that, given the very real and undeniable risks involved with taking the vaccine, it simply isn’t prudent to take the vaccine.
It’s like, if I only have a 0.003% chance of dying of Covid (or whatever it is), then why would I get the vaccine knowing that there is a non-zero chance I develop heart problems because of the vaccine? It just doesn’t make sense from a cost-benefit standpoint. The rewards don’t outweigh the risks.
I know this is blasphemy in our current hysterical social climate of “JAB ALL THE THINGS!!!11!!!” but it’s the truth.
We see pretty similar numbers in terms of new cases of Covid among the vaxed and the un-vaxed. Unvaxed are a bit higher than fully vaxed, but if you combine fully vaxed with partially vaxed, vaccinated are around 60% of the new cases.
However, in terms of severe cases of Covid (i.e. hospital admissions), people with either one or two doses of the vaccine make up nearly 70% of the total.
In terms of Covid deaths, the vaccinated make up almost 80%–more than 3x the number of deaths than among the un-vaccinated.
By now it’s undeniable that the vaccine doesn’t do what it was promised to do–confer immunity against Covid.
So then they started moving the goalposts: “Well ACKSHUALLY, the vaccine was never supposed to make you immune from Covid. It was only ever supposed to make it so if/when you do get Covid, it’s not nearly as bad.”
Never mind the fact that this has never been the objective of vaccines. What we’re seeing in Scotland right now disproves even the new, lower standard they’ve set for the vaccines.
Not only do the vaccines not prevent you from getting Covid, this data from Scotland shows the vaccinated are either being admitted to the hospital or straight-up dying of Covid at way higher rates than the un-vaccinated.
This whole failed vaccine rollout has progressed along the stages of grief. First, when the news started coming out that the vaccinated were getting Covid, it was Denial mixed with Anger: “SHUT THE FUCK UP! BREAKTHROUGH INFECTIONS ARE RARE!”
Then came bargaining, “Well at least the vaccine makes it so Covid won’t be as bad if you do end up getting it 😟😟…”
They’re going to force companies with over 100 employees to mandate vaccines for all employees:
Protect the vaccinated from the unvaccinated?
Isn’t that what the vaccines were supposed to do?
Guess this is his roundabout way of saying the vaccines don’t work.
I see a lot of people on social media saying “He can’t do this! There’ll be lawsuits!”
You really trust the legal system? The judicial system is filled with Establishment apparatchiks who will gladly enforce any order Biden hands out with no regard for whether or not it’s actually legal and/or constitutional. None of that stuff matters anymore.
Even if this somehow makes it up to the Supreme Court, do you really think there’s even a 1% the Supreme Court doesn’t rubber stamp this vaccine order? “But conservatives have a 6-3 majority!”
I’m sorry, but I have zero faith in the Supreme Court even with a 6-3 “conservative” majority on it.
The “Muh Private Businesses can do whatever they want!” crowd is behaving exactly how you’d expect.
Funny how the libs suddenly love Private Businesses and support them doing whatever the hell they want. They were singing a different tune when it came to whether or not Christian bakeries should be forced to bake cakes for gay weddings. It’s almost as if it’s not about the rights of businesses but instead whether or not those businesses are carrying out a left-wing political agenda.
So the vaccines are failing, and the government’s response is to push the vaccines even harder.
I’m so glad our government is looking out for our health and safety.
Vaccines have never been about conferring immunity. Wherever would you get that crazy idea? Vaccines have always been about mitigation. Oceania has always been at war with Eastasia.
Massie included links to the archived versions of the CDC’s website which show all the different definitions of the word vaccine.
Boy, I don’t want to sound like a Conspiracy Theorist™ or anything, but this sure is interesting timing. Covid vaccines get rolled out early this year; a few months in and it’s clear they’re not working; then the CDC changes the definition of the word “vaccine” to just mean “protection” from a specific virus, rather than immunity.
Face it: people got these vaccines because the implicit promise was that they’d make you immune from Covid. But by now it’s clear these vaccines provide no such thing. And now the government is rewriting history to try to make it seem like vaccination was never about immunity at all.
I see a lot of morons on social media trying to act like this is nothing– “All three definitions basically mean the same thing!”
Oh, really? If that’s the case, why change the definition at all?
We know why the CDC changed the definition. But it’s not surprising that a lot of people are in denial about it. They were duped and they know it, and this is giving them some unpleasant cognitive dissonance.
I’ve been writing a lot about Ivermectin lately. In fact, it’s largely what motivated me to come back to this site and start writing here again.
I’ve been reading lots of studies and reading lots of articles from “alternative” news sources about using Ivermectin to treat Covid, and it all seems really promising.
If you haven’t yet read this article entitled “The Drug That Cracked Covid,” I strongly recommend it. It’s long, but I promise you it’s worth it. It’s a story about two doctors who are fighting like hell to get the government and the world writ large to listen to them about Ivermectin’s potential to quite literally cure Covid-19.
But given the fact that both the US government and the US media are going to great lengths to discourage people from using it, I figured it would be prudent to take a step back and assess the situation objectively. I’m at the point where I pretty much instinctively distrust anything that comes from the government or the media (and the media is basically the government’s propaganda department at this point), but that shouldn’t mean I instinctively and credulously believe anything that goes against what the government/media is saying.
In other words, just because the government/media aren’t credible does not mean all other sources of information automatically are credible.
So I wanted to put myself in the shoes of an Ivermectin-hating lib and see if that viewpoint actually makes any sense when put to the test.
The main question here is, if all these people touting Ivermectin are lying about it, then why is that? What do they have to gain from tricking people into believing Ivermectin cures Covid?
Are they just assholes who want to trick people into taking horse de-wormer? Maybe, but it’s unlikely. These are actual doctors we’re talking about here.
Are they just seeking fame and attention? Possibly, but the attention they’re receiving from the media and the government is overwhelmingly negative. I personally would not want to subject myself to the things that Dr. Pierre Kory has been through.
Could this stuff about Ivermectin all be made up? Sure, but it would be a pretty vast and far-ranging conspiracy if it were. We’re talking about dozens and dozens of studies conducted by doctors all around the world, from the US to the UK to India to Venezuela and plenty of other countries.
Is there a financial incentive for them to do so? No, not from what I can tell. Ivermectin was invented in 1971 by a Japanese microbiologist named Satoshi Omura. It went into mass-production by Merck in 1981 under the name Stromectol, and has been off-patent (i.e. available in generic form) since 1996. Currently, the price of Ivermectin is about $4 per tablet, which is nothing. It’s handed out by the truckload for free in Africa. Nobody’s making any serious money off the sale of Ivermectin–especially not these doctors who are advocating people take it. They don’t own Ivermectin; nobody does, really. It’s far too cheap and widely available nowadays to make serious money off of….